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May 08, 2003
WHERE ARE THE "MESSAGES"?

Do you miss de Villepin's "eloquence"? His female counterpart has finally arrived! French Defense Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie gave an interview today to daily newspaper Le Parisien urging improved ties with U.S.:

'What's worrying...is the reactions of an American public opinion heated to white hot by political and media campaigns that undermine transatlantic relations. It will be important for us to send some messages in the coming months because, otherwise, this phenomenon could be deep and long-lasting,' she added in comments printed on the day France marked the end of World War II in Europe.

Alliot-Marie was optimistic U.S. and French leaders could work together, saying politicians were practical.

'They know the important thing is the deep and lasting ties of friendship and partnership between our countries,' she said.

Concerning Iraq, France and the United States had not disagreed on the fundamentals of the issue, but on the timetable and methods for dealing with it, the minister said.

Suuuuure...

In the same interview, here's what she had to say about Chiraq:

"Jacques Chirac possesses "the sense of his reponsibility in History, self-assurance, depth". It would be "a very fair acknowledgment" if the French President received the Nobel Peace Prize.

"I am struck by the dimension he took. The President gained in density". Compared to a year ago, "in certain ways, he is not the same person".

To the question "would you like President Chirac to receive the Nobel Peace Prize", she answered: "That would be a very fair acknowledgement". "In addition, forgive me if I find it funny, I know some people that would be irritated. Hence, that would be an excellent additional reason for him to get this prize".

Sometimes I wonder if I am not living in another dimension....

posted by Carine at 04:17 PM
Comments

I love accountability. Its not our fault says the French Defense (Surrender) Minister. Its the US and a media campaign and political rhetoric blaming us (that would be the Frogs).
Jaques Chirac posseses...what very white teeth a bar of soap someone once gave him he doesn't use?
He actually doesn't posses anything except for a gigantic ego and a sense of dillusion that rivals the Iraqi Information Ministers.

Posted by: Cozmogirl on May 8, 2003 04:36 PM

You know, if Arafat can win a Nobel peace prize, so can Chirac ... and I would love to see him presented with the award in Iraq.

Posted by: Big Lou from Brooklyn on May 8, 2003 05:15 PM

I think the Bush/Blair nomination would be a better choice.
Chiraq didn't actually DO a damned thing.. except sell weapons to Saddam.

Posted by: Dishman on May 8, 2003 11:53 PM

Your "anti France" propaganda web site is a perfect example of how little we, Americans, know anything about history of the world and of the United States of America!

First of all your site does not tolerate that someone or some nation can have a different opinion about how to handle Iraq. I thought we stood for freedom of speech and liberty for all? In your case freedom and liberty as long as you agree with us!

All nations know that Saddam didn't pose a threat to any other nation anymore since 1991; of course it is very easy to scare the hell out of the ignorant American masses after 9/11.
By the way Bin Laden received about 3 billion dollars from us the USA!!!

Did any American stood still and questioned why 9/11 happened? Most of the problems in the Middle-east sprout forth out of the Israeli-Palestine problem. For 40 years UN resolution after UN resolution has been disregarded. Palestinians live in appalling conditions, and nobody really wanted to solve the problem; it cannot be solved as long as Israel receives billions of dollars every year from the US government without a "peace condition". again we should look to ourselves and say that we are the cause of a 9/11 attack.
Terrorism is created out of desperation, it is the last resort, the ultimate act!
If we would take care more of our own country and not interfere everywhere else in the world we could have free medical care the best education( which stinks right now), and a peaceful existence.

Protecting economic interests is a relative prospect and the US supports still, and has supported a lot of terrible regimes in order to protect our own economic interests ... weapons sales are big business.
We, the USA, supported Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan... and they became "axis of evil"!!!!!

We can be criticised a lot more for bloody and other interventions than France, who dared to disagree with a violent policy of Bush.
Everybody should know that there are always different options to solve a problem.
France didn't stop the USA they just didn't agree with that option.

AMERICANS, LET US NOT BE DRAGGED DOWN BY MASS HYSTERIA!
Let us act honourably, worthy of a superpower.

Michael Stone

Posted by: Michael Stone on May 9, 2003 05:37 AM

Michael Stone,

First of all, what your comments have to do with this post I don't know, but visibly, you had to let your hysteria out...

Your "anti France" propaganda web site is a perfect example of how little we, Americans, know anything about history of the world

Michael, the fact is that I am French and that, so far what has been posted here is not propaganda but fact. This post, for example, is a real excerpt of a real article in a real Parisian newspaper... If you want to try to prove me the opposite, then try to do so but don't just assume it.

I thought we stood for freedom of speech and liberty for all?

I think you pretty much said it all. It is also OUR right to disagree with the French Foreign Policy.

All nations know that Saddam didn't pose a threat to any other nation anymore since 1991

Could you please give us reliable sources, I'd be interested in reading them, really if you can find them... Of course, the fact that Saddam Hussein was slauthering his own people is not important to your open-mindedness...

For 40 years UN resolution after UN resolution has been disregarded.

We agree on that one... but that applies to Iraq too... That's why the UN wasn't the solution.

Palestinians live in appalling conditions, and nobody really wanted to solve the problem

Here we are! I bet in a few seconds you'll be blaming Israel... Of course, Iraqis under Saddam's regime had such a better way of living...

Terrorism is created out of desperation, it is the last resort, the ultimate act!

Of course, it is so logical to kill thousands of innocent people in terrorist attacks to take a stand against a country's government or policy... it is sooooooooooo courageous indeed... I bet you would even give those 19 hijikers a Medal of Merit if you could... Go & encourage them to do this again, this is such a good idea!!!

If we would take care more of our own country and not interfere everywhere else in the world we could have free medical care the best education( which stinks right now), and a peaceful existence.

Yeah, I know, that's exactly what my 5 year-old cousin told me...

weapons sales are big business.

Go there and check how much the US has sold weapons to Iraq, compared to the "peace camp"...
http://www.thedissidentfrogman.com/bureau/000113.html

We can be criticised a lot more for bloody and other interventions than France, who dared to disagree with a violent policy of Bush.

Indeed, France opposed the US intervention for very noble reasons such as a several billion dollars debt owed by Saddam's regime, or very lucrative oil and weapons contracts...

AMERICANS, LET US NOT BE DRAGGED DOWN BY MASS HYSTERIA!
Let us act honourably, worthy of a superpower.

You mean by letting other people die, such as the Iraqi people, just because, according to you, all nations know that Saddam didn't pose a threat to any other nation anymore since 1991? Man, are you sure you don't have French roots, you sound like a lot of my fellow citizens...

Posted by: Carine on May 9, 2003 06:22 AM

"AMERICANS, LET US NOT BE DRAGGED DOWN BY MASS HYSTERIA!
Let us act honourably, worthy of a superpower."

When did we Americans start spelling honorably with a U, eh?

Posted by: cannon on May 9, 2003 08:11 AM

When did we Americans start spelling honorably with a U, eh?

I have a theory:
that's because Mr. Stone, if it is his real name, may be American, but he is based in Europe... I'd even go so far as to say he is in one of the smallest countries of the axis of weasels...

Am I wrong?

Now I understand why his "speech" sounded so similar to what I hear everyday...

Posted by: Carine on May 9, 2003 09:26 AM

Hypocrisy, thy name is Stone.

Fish in a barrel. Where to start...hmm..

"I thought we stood for freedom of speech and liberty for all?"

Does that "all" include Iraqis? Bush thinks that it does, but you don't seem to agree.

"All nations know that Saddam didn't pose a threat to any other nation anymore since 1991"

Yeah i know, right? I was hanging out with all the other nations the other day and they were all like, "saddam is such a nice guy! He really cleaned up his act!" You don't really beleive this stuff do you?

"it is very easy to scare the hell out of the ignorant American masses after 9/11."

Listen Michael(or should i call you michele?) your just confused now. If we were scared, we would've acted like the french and appeased saddam. What Americans were is something called "pissed". Now being a spineless coward, you could not understand this emotion, so it is only reasonable that you transpose your own cowardice onto the population. But you are mistaken.

"Did any American stood still and questioned why 9/11 happened?"

No. We all know why it happened. Some terrorists flew planes into a building. It was all over the news, I don't know how you missed it.

"we are the cause of a 9/11 attack."

This is whats known as victim guilt. It is a valid psychological condition, often attributed to battered women and rape victims. Its when the victim of a crime believed that they somehow were responsible or deserved to be treated in the way that they were. My advice to you sir is to seek psychological help, as this condition is very serious and requires immediate professional attention.

"Terrorism is created out of desperation, it is the last resort, the ultimate act!"

Actually, terrorism is usually the first resort of individuals or countries who are incapable of projecting conventional military power.

"We, the USA, supported Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan... and they became "axis of evil"!!"

I suppose if Madame Cleo was the president's advisor, we could've seen this coming. One time, I gave this kid a quarter to buy milk in elementary school. 20 years later he became a violent criminal. I shoulda known! Its my fault!

"We can be criticised a lot more for bloody and other interventions than France."

More people have been killed in the ivory coast during the french intervention there, than died in the entirety of the 3 weeks war. So although we will be criticized more than France, we are not as grave an offender as France. But that doesn't really matter to you either, because you are a self-loathing, uninformed idiotarian with severe psychological problems. You should really seek mental help, as your post indicates a deep seeded victim guilt complex that can cause very serious problems for you later in life.


Posted by: Collins on May 9, 2003 09:56 AM

Cannon.

Perfect catch.

Posted by: Mike Krempasky on May 9, 2003 07:01 PM

the messages are in your fat ass

Posted by: boeufs aux hormones on May 14, 2003 09:47 AM
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